Dag 633 – Migration – Is there a long-term and lasting solution?


There are many aspects of migration from human beings from one country to another that can be investigated. A situation that most takes place is that in countries where there are more opportunities to build a decent life; people will migrate to these countries from other countries where there is less to none opportunity to build a decent life for oneself and their family.

Within the countries that are more opportunities, many people react more or less to migrants coming in. Here it is already a flag-point for oneself, that if one react to people coming to the country one lives in, there is fear involved as how the reaction is showing. Why fear?

Basicely we fear for ourselves that we do not have enough money (to buy food and water, housing, health-care, education) to live from. Basicely we fear that we physically will not be able to live and if more people are coming in, there is less to divide, as a simple calculation that we have learned at school.

What we did not learn at school is to see into solutions of how to live with limited resources here on earth and how to co-operate within this from a point of what is best for all, which can be applied within the principle of ‘give as you would like to receive’. It is teached to some of us from a religious point, however there are important missing links in the religious teachings of Jesus as how it is brought into this world and so, many turn their back on the basic living principles that are mentioned within but that are not of any count on long term as what is best for all, as long as there is not a total insight in ourselves and the world-system in who we are and how we are living under the influence of the religious illusion of God/The Mind/Self-Interest in relation to Money.

So, we can state here that we have learned what the problem is (limited recources that when devided with more people, one will have less) without being educated to find and apply solutions that are best for all. So we are educated from a point of fear because a problem without solution, gives and/or confirms the experience of fear within ourselves.

Fear is not a good adviser. But we all believe that we have to live from this starting-point of fear because that is how we are educated from a very young age, from birth. And this is how we are controled within ourselves, by ourselves in/as fear and by the money-system that is build from this point of fear, to create friction and conflict that is obviously coming forward when one has to divide limited recources from a point of fear that ‘one has less when things have to be divided with more’ without being teached how to live within equality and oneness, meaning to divide all that we have from a point of co-operation in consideration and support of all live on earth.

We can discuss this very widely, however everyone knows that this is the situation that we are living in at the moment. And it is only getting worse. So we all do see the problem.

From here, when we look into this question: is it a long-term solution that is best for all living beings here on earth, to react to migration and become angry at the ones who try to move to another country because there might be some better circumstances to build a life there? Here we do neither need to discuss the answer widely because here also everyone can answer this very quickly for oneself: no it is not a long term solution that is best for all life here on earth. It is based on fear of having too little and actually based on fear of others (projected on the migrants) taking everything and ‘taking over’, as this is how we have learned what will happen from a starting-point of fear.

Here we come back to the basic-line that we are not well educated from birth of how to live practically on earth with limited recourses in a way that is best for all. We only learned how to ‘get what you can get and/or protect what one has because there is not enough and otherwise others will take it’. Where we know that the ‘others’ are also teached to get what you can get and/or protect what one has because otherwise others will take it. And this is deeply ingrained within ourselves, within and as the mind consciousness system and it is deeply ingrained in how the world-system/money-system is set up.

So yes, we can state that we do have a problem. But that does not mean that there is no solution possible that is long-term and best for all.

The solution is not to be find instantly. As we see how we are educated over years and this for generations long, one can imagine that it also takes years to change this within ourselves and within the world. And the first step in this can be to see in our own reactions of fear towards people coming to your country – ‘your country’ as the country that one is born in/living in’ as it is not ‘your ownership’ that no other has access to. It is a strange thing actually that people have to move from one country to another because it is not livible in the country that one is born/living in. It is unacceptable.

So a solution that is long-term and best for all, will be to make it livible for all inhabitants in every country and to exchange recourses with other countries to come to the best possible basic-needs to create a dignified life for all on earth. Here, again, every one can see in common sense that this is the only long-term and lasting solution that is best for all and that in the end, will stop the fear of ‘not having enough and/or having less than others/others taking over the access to the recourses’. A long term solution will be to give as we would like to receive and this applied by all/most of us.

We do all see this but most do not see how to come to a long-term and lasting solution that is best for all and so we give up before we even start to investigate and apply the very small steps that are needed to eventually, make a change in this world in how we exist. And true, there is so much hold in control within the world-system as how it is set up and from here, accepted and allowed to exist by every human being, that it seems impossible to change. In fact the control of the resources has been taken over long time ago. And from here, it seems better to ‘make the best of it’ with what one have and protect this the best possible way for oneself and ones siblings and some others nearby, under this state of control.

Here I suggest to start with stopping the fear, the resistance, the reactions in oneself and to investigate where these reactions are actually coming from. This is the ‘control’ that one can start investigating, within oneself.  From a starting-point of fear we will not be able to find solutions. There is a part of the fear that is reality-based – as we do live with limited recourses and how the world exists today, we can be sure that we will not receive our ‘equal share’ so to speak. There is also a non-realistic-part and/or a part based on future-projections and “what-if statements” where we only take ourselves in consideration in a lot of things that we actually do not directly need physically but that we do not want to ‘loose’ and share with others. And so here, we are ‘to be feared by others’ because we are not/no longer willing to live as what is best for all and give what we would like to receive ourselves. So self-honest self-introspection, self-forgiveness and self-change is definitely needed here.

If we all do what is within our ability in this, within ourselves and/or without in the system, in the positions that we are living in and within the area that we do have an influence on, this will already support with creating a ripple-effect to stand up for a world that does no longer need migration from a point of survival and where eventually, migration can become an expansion and sharing of different cultures where we will be welcomed in another country. Wouldn’t that be a great way to exist, live and share?


Some ways to start investigating how the world-system without and our mind consciousness system within, are set up and actually so much more inter-related than we have ever truly realized:

Desteni I Process (individual process with practical tools to apply to step by step change ourselves into living beings who are willing and able to do what is best for all – including a FREE COURSE online in English and Dutch)

Living Income Guaranteed (possible solutions as transition fase to a world that is best for all)

(One can click on the links in the text to find interviews for self-education)


Proces van zelfverandering:
www.lite.desteniiprocess.com  GRATIS ONLINE CURSUS MET BUDDY (Ook in het Nederlands!)

Zelfeducatie free:
De Kronieken van Jezus

Journey to Life – Reis naar Leven:
7 jaar dagelijks schrijven – Dag 1 – Van ziel naar Leven
video: 2012: Nothingness – The 7 year process Birthing Self as Life
Ingrid’s Desteni Witness Blog

The Secret to Self-Realisation:


Proces van wereldverandering:

Uil forgive

Dag 467 – From Christianity to Desteni – How did I do that?


Within the Google Hangout about Christianity there was a question how I was able to step out of the Christianity boat and start walking within the principles Desteni stands for. On this I answered that I never really stepped into the Christianity boat but that I had made a shift from the ‘love of God’ towards the ‘love of soulmates’ or just an ultimate partnership with ‘The One’ as something ‘to reach out for’ within myself. Which is so, I did made that shift, so that was/is the greatest illusion for me to walk through. However, I found my answer incomplete. As the reason why it was easy for me to let go of what I found supportive within Christianity and to start walking with Desteni, is that within Desteni, the words of Jesus are involved and actually taken as a starting point. ‘Investigate all things and keep what is good – Do onto another as you would like to be done onto – Give as you would like to receive’.

‘Investigate All Things and Keep What is Good’, ‘Do onto Another as You would Like to be Done onto’, ‘Give as You would Like to Receive’ – See more at: http://creationsjourneytolife.blogspot.com/2013/03/day-333-jesus-message-is-not-religious.html#sthash.lbn04T7U.dpuf

Within Christianity, the words of Jesus in general within the bible – not especially these ones mentioned above – were what was intriging me and within this, there was Forgiveness involved. The role of God as presented within this religion was something that caused some friction within me everytime these words were spoken and so, I never stepped “into Christianity” as I could not stand as and by everything that is presented within.

So, when Desteni came in – Sylvie found Desteni on the internet and started investigating everything and involved me within this and one of the first things that she mentioned was that the words of Jesus are in it – and because of ‘the words of Jesus’ integrated, it has not been a point of doubt with regards to what I have walked within Christianity, as finally the words of Jesus are used and implemented, investigated and lived in common sense. (Before this Sylvie and I were investigating how to be ‘disciples of Jesus’ in a more common sense way and Desteni is actually providing the tools to walk and implement the principle of equality and oneness in a practical way).

Because I have not been raised ‘as a Christian’ in  a direct way – indirectly we are all raised within a religion – and I had shifted my veil of illusion towards the ‘soul-love’ (which I will expand on sometime later), I have never allowed myself to accept Christianity as ‘the one’ religion – although it was the religion that I could find myself in the most if not applied in an absolute way – and I also did not create a resistance towards Christianity. As I said, the illusion that I did have allowed myself to accept, was the illusion of the soul as ‘who we are’ and within this I had kind of accepted the concept of soulmates, however there were also always some doubts about it, some unclarities, but I wanted it so badly and it was the only way for me to see any sense in relationships, so I accepted it more or less. I also interpreted the words of Jesus within a ‘feeling’ inside as ‘divine love’, so there did take place a separation as an interpretation from it in and as the mind to make me ‘feel good’. But I approached it in and as a self-investigation where in I myself was the reference. The problem here was that I was not a clear reference for and as myself, because, as everyone, I have separated myself in and as the mind which I did not really understood for what it is – for who I am and have become and so I kept on searching for answers.

The concept of forgiveness as how it is offered in a Christian approach, that I struggled with, as I did not understand how I could forgive another. I simply felt inside that I had not forgiven and so, I could not say and live these words.  However I understood that forgiveness is necessary as we cannot hold on to revenge. So then there is a problem as I did not have a practical way to apply and live this.

Within Desteni, the tool to work with is Self-Forgiveness. Well that is something that I immediately could accept and start working with, although it took me a while before I could really grasp the totality of it. And from self-forgiveness I can go to forgiveness, as understanding of self means understanding of others as self. (The difference between forgiveness and self-forgiveness has been discussed within the Google Hangout).

So, from Christianity – the words of Jesus as written in the bible and the concept of Forgiveness – towards Desteni – the words of Jesus expanded and explored in common sense and applied in practical living and brought back to self in and as Self-Forgiveness – well that is how it was clear for me to go from Christianity to Desteni without having conflict in this decision.

Within Desteni, the existence of Humanity and the role of God is explored and explained in detail for the first time in human existence without leaving information behind. So, if one is really interested and ready to face how we have existed as humanity – you will find everything in Desteni that was unclear within Christianity. As every so called Christian or other religion participant  has questions that are answered with ‘only God knows’. Some put them aside, some keep on asking, some turn their back on the religion, some accept a complete illusion – it are all ways to ‘deal’ with the lack of real information. This is what I always ‘bumped onto’, which I experienced within myself as ‘it is not complete, it is not making sense, it is not ‘whole’ in a way’. I have never experienced this within Desteni, as everything make sense. And – what I did have as a clear reference, was my own body and physical complaints which was the main reason for me to keep on searching and also here, I finally got answers and tools to really investigate and start to understand the influence of my own mind within this all.

Of course I have experienced and do experience resistance to let go of my own created illusions, to not want to face myself, to protect myself as who I have become. But I never have had this friction inside myself that their were no answers, that there was information kept away and things like that or that it doesn’t make sense.  There is total clarity, frankness and support; if one wants to look inside self. If one is not willing to investigate and see into self, everything will be interpreted as a polarity to keep the illusion of the mind alive and so, information will be turned around within ones own mind to protect itself. Until one find: ‘Oh my God, how could I have missed this’. As we have missed ourselves completely within existence.

What I have done in the beginning is to start with the information that makes sense and to not only focus on the things that cause resistance inside. I did take time for it, to walk through resistance, to see for myself if ‘there is really no other way’. I accepted the things that were provided to me and I did read it, although it was with resistance and fear of ‘loosing another illusion’. Untill I decided, okay, if this all make sense, then I should investigate everything. As I cannot keep on walking with one foot in and one foot out and only take what ‘suits’ me. It’s all or nothing in a way. And from here, things did change as this decision will support oneself to open up, to really see, listen and investigate and bring the resistance back to self. And interesting enough, a part of the resistance will disappear within this decision itself. For the rest one will during walking realize that there is no other choice than ‘bringing it back to self’, as no one else will make the change for us.

Is this than a brainwashing, just as how a Christian accepts God in a way? As how I have accepted ‘the Soul’ in a way as a shift from god to the soul as ‘god’? I can say, No, it’s not. It is a decision to STOP the brainwashing and illusion and to start taking self-responsibility for it, as it, within it. But this is what one can only walk and proove for and as oneself. As our own walking, will be our own proove. Change willl not take place over one night.

So from ‘Christianity to Desteni’ – I would say, it is a practical way of walking as how Christianity is ment to be within the words of Jesus and we do not follow Jesus, but we follow his words within a practical application, in and as ourselves, as what is best for all Life.

How does that sound?

To investigate:

What is the relationship between Jesus and ‘Life’?  (Interview)

Day 333 – The Jesus Message is Not a Religious Message

Dag 461: Sceptics Failed the Jesus Message

Jesus – I’m not comming on a cloud

Jesus – The forgiveness of Jesus

Jesus – The Guidelines of Forgiveness Part 1

Jesus – Responsibility

Mother Teresa’s story: The life of the saint Part 1

Mother Teresa: My perspective on purity

Winged – The Chronicles of Jesus


Jezus (Overzicht artikelen)


Mogelijkheid tot wereldverandering met gelijke kansen voor ieder-een:
Leefbaar Inkomen Gegarandeerd:
Equal Life Foundation:
Proces van zelfverandering:

www.lite.desteniiprocess.com  GRATIS ONLINE CURSUS MET BUDDY
Proces van relatie naar agreement:
Zelfeducatie free:
Journey to Life:
7 jaar dagelijks schrijven
7 jaar dagelijks schrijven – Dag 1 – Van ziel naar Leven
video: 2012: Nothingness – The 7 year process Birthing Self as Life
De Desteni Boodschap – Wat doen we ermee?:
Zelfvergeving als Toegift aan jeZelf: